From the mid-1920s to the mid-1950s thousands of 1911s and 1911A1s were refurbished at U.S. Arsenals and Service depots. It could be a 1960s USGI replacement slide. This appears to be a typical rebuild of the post WW II era. Based on the info you provided the pistol sounds like and looks like a legitimate arsenal rebuild. Based on what I have found there is some very interesting history even though this is an arsenal rebuild. All Discussions only Photos only Videos only Links only Polls only Events only. … By number it’s definitely a 1911 but number and cuts very well can be factory, either way you probably have one of a kind very nice pistol. 1945) 1911A1 M15 General Officer's Pistol: Rock Island Arsenal (RIA) General Officers M15 .45 ACP GO609 presented … All Time Today Last Week Last Month. I acquired nine pistols recently. This is a REMINGTON RAND produced version of a WWII M-1911A1 Colt-style semiautomatic pistol in .45 ACP caliber. The top of the barrel is marked "COLT 45 AUTO". Thanks for looking. After doing some research I discovered it is the 2nd rarest WWII 1911 out there. High Standard Barrel. It is not uncommon to find differences in finish on small parts or even intermixed with blued ones on rebuilds. Besides that, it's trigger does not work. The last new Colt M1911A1 pistols were purchased in 1945, but the pistols served another 37 years. 1 Ithaca & 1 colt. Colt/Ithaca 1911A1 Arsenal Rebuild First I would like to thank everyone for their input and help in my search to identify the various components. Guns for Sale - Arsenal Rebuild Colt .45 ACP -- Remington Rand Model 1911A1 1911-A1, C&R: C&R - Pistol - Item# 12873963: This Auction has Ended: Winner: R*****1: Current Price: $893.00: Quantity: 1 lot: Auction Closed: July 20, 2014 17:15:21 PDT: Auction Type: Basic Style: NRA Grade: Good: History: 45 Bid(s) … Found on Colt M1911s SN 101,500 to 230,000, M1907, M1917, M1903, … Not a collector's gun but probably a fine old shooter. Not sure yet if Augusta did rebuilds. This gun is parkerized pretty black rather than grey. C&R Ok. Would be interesting to find out the barrel. I blame it on 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. Take a closer look at this X serial number Colt Model 1911, or is it a 1911A1? HS barrel that looks almost new. The slide shows toning from sitting in the holster, but otherwise racks and locks up tight. Private 1st Class. During the NRA/DCM sales of the 1950/60's time period a lot of the pistols were rebuilt Model 1911's. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. HS barrel that looks almost new. The … Subsequent rebuilds in the 1960s and beyond would allow for the identification of USMC M1911/A1s. All Time Today Last Week Last Month. With the exception of the mainspring housing the finish appears to be dark grey parkerizing on my screen. 1945) Colt Model 1911A1 - Military 2364230 J.S.B. That's just the breaks. Can you tell if the AA stamp is applied after the finish? Just became the proud owner of my grandfather's US&S 1943 1911A1, with the original leather holster. Observations of a few of the RIA marked pistols: M1911A1s have been examined in the Colt 1108xxx range and a Ithaca with SN 1224794 that had the RIA, FK, and ordnance bomb marked (Ordnance Bomb is usually found under the serial … Sights are not correct for any USGI match gun. Frame has OG stamp for Ogden Arsenal rebuild. Very nice pistol. 1 - 6 of 6 Posts. It is a 1945 mfr Remington Rand frame with GI replacement slide. All the right proof marks. The right side of the frame is marked “UNITED STATES PROPERTY / NO. FOR THE COLLECTOR!! Springfield made replacement barrels for the 1911 and 1911A1. But I wanted to know exactly how much I would be saving up to buy one of these fine old war veterans if you will. From the mid-1920s to the mid-1950s thousands of 1911s and 1911A1s were refurbished at U.S. Arsenals and Service depots. … In any … The left front of the trigger guard is marked “4”. So many 1911A1 pistols were produced during the war that the government canceled all postwar contracts for new production, instead choosing to rebuild existing pistols with new parts, which were then refinished and tested for functioning. Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Arsenal rebuild M1911 (1914~1915)? Keyes grips. Trade for gently used colt python pre1980 Or $3500 shipped. The slide serrations are not 90 degrees. They are starting to turn up as the Old Vets pass away. Ithaca mis-read a memo from the Ordnance Dept addressed to Colt giving them (Colt) the okay to … SA Arsenal rebuild 43 Colt. I replaced the springfield barrel, commonly seen on arsenal rebuilds, with the original High Standard barrel correct for 1943 production. I Have a 1918 1911 Colt so looking to add a WW2 model to my collection. … 1918 - 1926 Colt slide. U.S. Army Marksmanship Training Unit Standards & Procedures – Rebuild the .45 M1911A1 Pistol to USAMTU Specifications; Use of the .45 Auto Sear Jig; When to Restore (and when not to) Odds & Ends. It is a 1943 Remington Rand M1911A1. Search. That is a nice arsenal rebuild 1911a1 with re-parkerized finish. Posted: 8/24/2020 2:09:24 PM EST Quote History. Posts; Latest Activity; Photos . Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 7, 2018. 5. Discussion in 'Handguns, Pistol Shooting' started by mark2cjr, Jul 17, 2011. mark2cjr Registered Member. My limited research shows it has all the attributes of a 1911A1 (exception of an unusual hammer). The pistol went through some sort of rebuild, and as such is not original. CMP 1911A1 Arsenal Stamping Question? Private 1st Class. SKYLINE DRIVE. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...l6SGtXZFQwS2ZB, http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread....er+relief+cuts, http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread....highlight=TW56. This pistol was stolen and recovered then renumbered. I've never seen one like that, but I'm no expert. You either have a rare piece or someone switched it out. You can contact the seller by … Your help is appreciated. If you intend to buy something from Brownells, please use their banners above. 1911A1 Army 1945 Production: Ithaca Gun Co Model 1911A1 - Military 2128752 (ca. Among those 7 that arrived, 6 are trouble free and good. Received mine last week. The frame has obviously been polished and reblued somewhere along the line, and not by an arsenal rebuild which would have parkerized it. Augusta Arsenal 1911A1 .45 ACP X Serial Number - YouTube. Collapse. Nice, US&S 1911a1 Agusta Arsenal Rebuild, HS P marked barrel (bore 9.5 /10). It doesn't affect value any more than any other rebuild mark. Buyer Tip: Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item. Previous template Next. check out the. X. No arsenal rebuild stamps. It still has all the correct checkered parts, vintage Keyes Fibre grips, and stamped trigger correct for late 1943 production. Page of 1. Barrel Marking of 1945 Colt M1911 with Type 6; Colt Barrel Markings: Serial #710,00 to End of Production; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial #25,000 to 120,000; Colt M1911 Barrel Markings Serial … The left side of the frame in front of the trigger guard is marked “5”. Arsenals/Depots generally used parts on hand until they were exhausted and may extend beyond that range. Any such rebuilds will normally be stamped with a code indicating the facility that did the work. the marking is Colt 45 Auto over the left hand side of the barrel link. Posts: 2 Hello fellow CMP 1911A1 owners. The mainspring housing appears as dark as the gun. Jump to Latest Follow ... During rebuild the Model 1911 parts were used on Model 1911 receivers where possible rather than on the 1911A1 receivers. "SA" > Springfield Arsenal Rebuild Stamp, "UNITED STATES PROPERTY M 1911 AI U.S. ARMY" & Fertigungsnummer, links Inspektorenstempel "FJA" > Frank J. Atwood; beidseitig bedienbare Sicherung; Handballensicherung mit Schwalbenschwanz (deaktiviert) skelettierter Abzug; 7 Schuss Wilson Combat Magazin mit Schuh ; … I agree with Bgiven, it is most likely a mixmaster as I believe most Springfield Arsenal rebuilds of that vintage would probably be marked with "SA" These arsenal rebuilt pistols are typically going for around $800-$1000 bucks and sometimes even higher. Just became the proud owner of my grandfather's US&S 1943 1911A1, with the original leather holster. Over all finish is a pleasing dark Black /Grey with toning and silvering of high edges. Slide has 7790314 drawing number and 53397 mfg number for Numax electronics. Time. Looking to sell or possible trade an excellent Remington Rand 1911A1 from 1942 that includes a canvas bag and Kraft box shown not original to the gun but makes a nice package. Springfield arsenal rebuild 1911A1 before and after. Filtered by: Clear All. Gun has correct WW2 grips. So many 1911A1 pistols were produced during the war that the government canceled all postwar contracts for new production, instead choosing to rebuild existing pistols with new parts, which were then refinished and tested for functioning. I will post pics of two 1911 and 1911A1 Arsenal refurbishments, and hope other members post pictures of theirs. User Name: Remember Me? Joined: Jun 26, 2010 Messages: 93 Location: fuquay-varina. The plug is post war USGI contract type. So the walnut ones could be found on an arsenal rebuild. This is a Colt MFG. in 1918 WWI 1911, .45ACP, which was reworked (Arsenal Rework) by Springfield Ar for sale by SH Supply on GunsAmerica - 989148644 The Colt is blued & in excellent shape Frame marked correctly but slide only has P proof in front of rear sight, no sn on rear of slide. Show . It is a 1945 mfr Remington Rand frame with GI replacement slide. I received a very nice "Field Grade" pistol from CMP last week. All Discussions only Photos only Videos only Links only Polls only Events only. I find them interesting, not only because I have a couple, but because of their often long history of usage. 1914 Colt frame. Keyes marked grips. Manufacturing contracts required total parts interchangeability, so when an M1911A1 pistol went to an arsenal or service depot … There is cosmoline in many areas of the frame/slide. According to its serial number, my 1911A1 was manufactured in 1918 as a 1911 but it went through arsenal rebuild to convert it to 1911A1 configuration prior to or during WWII. Don't know what to think about the frame, but that is not an original serial number or SA built NM gun. The funny thing is that I remember R/Rs in the $400-$500 range in the '90s. Will check details when it arrives. AA rebuild marking. A friend of mine has a Ithaca LEAD rebuild does the fact that "LEAD" is engraved in the frame hurt the value of the pistol? Inspectors cartouche and Arsenal rebuild stamp examples: 1942 Colt WB Example: 1912 Colt WGP Example: Augusta Arsenal Rebuild Stamp: Inspection initials found on 1911/1911A1s; located under the slide stop on the left side of the gun: WGP Monogram: Walter G. Penfield, Major Colt S/N 1-101,500 GHS Monogram: Gilbert H. Stewart. Just my experience but I think that is a good comparison of the value of an original RR to an arsenal rebuild (in this case an Ithaca) where the slide has been changed. Weirdness on and around April 19; 1911 .45 ACP Production Information; 1911 Bookstore; 1911 Mystique Discussion in 'Military Surplus' started by coolhandluke, Dec 2, 2018. I recently got a CMP Remington Rand and I am not sure what arsenal rebuilt it? The late Colts finished in Parko-Lubrite show quite a bit of color difference in slide and receiver depending on whether they were sandblasted or not … If so I'd guess the single A is for Anniston. Enjoy Not arsenal rebuilt. My local pawn dealer got in 2 1911A1's yesterday. No Arsenal rebuild. I have a question regarding the pistol, the serial number places the date of manufacture as 1918, but it is marked on the receiver as a "1911A1". Sent from my SM-G920T using … new posts. Search. Gunsmithing, Troubleshooting & Refinishing, M1911 Disassembly and reassembly animations, Tests of Products of general shooters interest, Airsoft/Air Gun Modifications, Troubleshooting and Maintenance. Discussion in 'Handguns, Pistol Shooting' started by mark2cjr, Jul 17, 2011. mark2cjr Registered Member. Quoted: That is a nice arsenal rebuild 1911a1 … Rear sight shows two … The R marked magazine is a WW II subcontract made by Risdon Mfg Co of Naugatuck,CT. During the NRA/DCM sales of the 1950/60's time period a lot of the pistols were rebuilt Model 1911's. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. SKYLINE DRIVE Posted October 29, 2012. There is a p proof mark on the link frame. FOR THE COLLECTOR!! Also just for some eye candy, here is some pics of the US&S 1911a1 that I fired. Stumbled upon an actual Colt 1911A1 at an out of the way gunstore, mostly a special order place really, about an hour ago. So far not sure about it either. Seven in hands now, two more will come (including this RR 1911A1). 1945) Remington Rand Model 1911A1 - Military 2436338 (ca. All parts and markings are GI (Government Issue.) Arsenal Rebuilds; Background Information on the United States Pistol Caliber .45 M1911; Ballester-Molina; Barrel Markings Files. markings on right lug is s & w. left lug has m and p. m is for magnaflux (inspected and found no cracks - p is proof stamp). Scovil marked magazine. Rainier Ordnance Depot RA - Raritan Arsenal RR - Red River Arsenal RIA - Rock Island Arsenal SAA - San Antonio Arsenal … During rebuild the Model 1911 parts were used on Model 1911 receivers where possible rather than on the 1911A1 receivers. The barrel has the same type and color finish as rest of gun, the barrel hood is polished, about 90% of the arsenal parkerized finish remains, and bore is good. Just received my CMP 1911a1. It is original, but it's grip panel corner has a small chip which I did not notice in the ad. X. I picked-up this Augusta Arsenal rebuild M1911 in a FTF deal today for $650.00.....I suspect it was rebuilt in the 50s what with some WW-2 A1 parts on it like the narrow spur hammer and serrated thumb safety. 1563621. Just as was done on M1 Garands, pistols rebuilt by the Marines in this time period would have an “O” (standing for Overhaul) electropenciled onto the frame, followed by a dash and the last two digits of the year the overhaul took place. The slide stop is a 1911A1 type. Pre-rebuild Colt H inspector's marking on both slide and frame. Industry Announcements and Press Releases, Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites, Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites, More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands), Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super .38 and Commander pistols. I recently purchased a 1911 from the Estate of a private collection, this person collected GI type firearms for over 40 years, which included 2 Singer 1911's. The old arsenal … The slide shows toning from sitting in the holster, but otherwise racks and locks up tight. Looks like a civilian … Well folks, recently I finally got the pistol I wanted for a long time. The slide is definitely not an Ithaca or any WWII period 1911a1. Password: Register: FAQ: Members List: Calendar: Mark Forums Read : Page 1 of 2: 1: 2 > Thread Tools: Display Modes #1 10-25-2019, 12:29 AM frgsparky : Join Date: Oct 2019. Filter. If you want to become a sponsor and see your banner in the above panel, click here to contact us. This pistol falls into the range of Ithaca made 1911a1's which had a parked bullet feedramp, which is correct! Join Date: Aug 2015; Posts: 178 #1 SA Arsenal rebuild 43 Colt … You have a 1911 frame with some A1 parts and I think, an A1 slide. Trade for gently used colt python pre1980 Or $3500 shipped. Joined: Jun 26, 2010 Messages: 93 Location: fuquay-varina. Right at the end of 1944 Colt was given permission to use the Parko-Lubrite on all new 1911A1's. Take a closer look at this X serial number Colt Model 1911, or is it a 1911A1? What about the grips? 2 Posts . Slide has 7790314 drawing number and 53397 mfg number for Numax electronics. I have heard the arsenal rebuild Colt 1911's are a little cheaper then the original 1911a1's from ww2. There is an ordnance wheel marked on the right rear of the frame. Had to save for a while to be able to get it, but it was worth the wait. Filter. I have a 1944 1911a1 that is quite a bit lighter. I've seen too many fine handguns that have suffered from that practice. Arsenal overhaul and inspection stamps: AA = Augusta Arsenal AN/ANAD = Anniston Army Depot ... Models 1911 and 1911A1" by Charles Clawsons (128617 - 133186). From the pictures it looks like the A1 could have been added and the finger cuts were done later also, stamping and cuts done very well. Anyways I bought a couple of the 1911's. Your help is appreciated. After doing some research I … It is a WW1 pistol with finger relief cuts , I have seen pics of 8 1911 CMP pistols. Just received my CMP 1911a1. A geometric-shape proofmark, like a triangle, arrowhead or such, on the front left of triggerguard indicates an M1911A1 made by Ithaca. It might be any of the following (and there may have been others not shown): AAA - Anniston Army Depot AA - Augusta Arsenal OG - Ogden Arsenal MR - Mt. Frame has OG stamp for Ogden Arsenal rebuild. Previous template Next. 1911 replacement barrel by s&w colt government contract barrel #7791193 used for military arsenal rebuild of the 1911. this is new old stock. This is a Colt MFG. also this barrel is chrome lined to prevent corrosion from corrosive … Grips are the original Keyes. It's interesting that USMC is painted on it, not sure if that is something that was done during it's service or done later … Whatever you buy from them, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. … If this is your first visit, be sure to Link to post Share on other sites. I also have an original 1943 Graton & Knight holster that will be used as her only holster from now on. 1563621. These arsenal rebuilds … 2025572”, “M1911 A1 U.S. ARMY”, at the rear with an Ordnance mark, and the front with an "SA" Arsenal rebuild mark. It is not uncommon to find differences in finish on small parts or even intermixed with blued ones on rebuilds. If you have any questions regarding this item, you should contact the Seller before bidding. It has an A 9 80 stamp. There are two carbon copies of the paperwork Sgt Jarman received. in 1918 WWI 1911, .45ACP, which was reworked (Arsenal Rework) by Springfield Ar for sale by SH Supply on GunsAmerica … Member ; Member ID: 82906; 380 posts; Location: The southern … It is a SPRINGFIELD ARSENAL REBUILD and is in "Excellent" 95% reParkerized finish overall REBUILT condition, with some minor holster wear showing along the edges of the slide and a few other places near the … I think it may likely be something a GI brought home from WW-2, Korea, or even Viet-Nam. Augusta Arsenal (AA) (Overhaul and rebuild only) Marking: Font/Notes: Inspector (if known) BLOCK: AAL: BLOCK: BLOCK: AAP: BLOCK: AAR: BLOCK: BLOCK: Benecia Arsenal (BA) (Rebuild only) Wwii Remington Rand Model 1911-A1 M1911a1, Arsenal Rebuilt & Reparkerized 5” Sa Semi-Automatic Pistol, Mfd Late 1944 C&R .45 Acp - 14518245. Inspected (ca. If you intend to buy something from the companies advertising above, or near the bottom of our pages, please use their banners in our sites. Based on the info you provided the pistol sounds like and looks like a legitimate arsenal rebuild. These arsenal marked M1911A1s are collectible in their own way. Filtered by: Clear All. For example, that Ithaca might be worth $2500 as an original pistol but maybe $1000 with the rebuild mark. Show . I have a blued 1916 Mfg 1911 pistol with finger cuts in the frame , no rework stamps on the frame. The grips are more worn than the gun. First is there a way to see if it was used in a military campaign and second is the value based on historical value or in the collectable side. They do not bring the same value as an original example. SA Arsenal rebuild 43 Colt. So the walnut ones could be found on an arsenal rebuild.
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